tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post266230207660813356..comments2024-03-28T17:58:08.020-04:00Comments on Too Many Verlanders: A collecting discussion: owners unwilling to deal a rare card you needDennishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09644523735533872065noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-63480451875096900892012-05-06T20:51:33.581-04:002012-05-06T20:51:33.581-04:00I'm with everybody else on this. It would suc...I'm with everybody else on this. It would suck if it was that last card needed and he wouldn't give it up, but it is his decision to do so. I would be annoyed if the guy who had it replied back being a dick, there is no call for that. But there isn't anything you can do about that. Some people are just that way. Realistically I would hope to realize that it is so rare that he should be amazed he even ran across the last card and he took a shot at it.<br /><br />I don't have a problem parting with any card that isn't in my personal collection. I would be happy to trade him for it at fair market value. I'd feel good helping him complete it.<br /><br />And no, nobody is entitled to anything in collecting. It's like life, finders, keepers.Jeff Lawshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14325109853869480569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-12729377372790904712012-05-05T02:49:26.750-04:002012-05-05T02:49:26.750-04:00As a person that is trying to complete one of the ...As a person that is trying to complete one of the most ambitious projects of collecting I have seen, I can sympathize with the buyer. I search the internet over for the cards to complete my sets. I send emails and get good responses, send emails and the person promises to work out a deal and then I don't hear from them and then emails that get ignored. It happens. The seller of course has no obligation to sell....I suppose. BTW, anyone seen a 2008 Masterpieces Blue /50 #46 Robin Yount......Anyone?stusigpihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02728528326120902610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-28391798491764487742012-05-05T02:36:14.492-04:002012-05-05T02:36:14.492-04:00Low numbered cards are the reason i stopped player...Low numbered cards are the reason i stopped player collecting in the late 90s. it is now part of the hobby and we all have to live with it.<br /><br />i do have 1 plyer collection though, Bill Virdon. Months ago i found a Virdon Hertiage buyback on a forum that i had never seen anywhere in 3 years. I contacted him and made him a nice trade offer and got turned down. So i made him a to large cash offer and got turned down again. So i tried to have someone else make him an offer and still no dice. So I gave up figured I would just never get the card. Couple weeks go buy and he listed it on ebay where I got it for $7 plus shipping. He would have been WAY ahead if he had just taken my first offer.AdamEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107347958456472504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-54391093489421953852012-05-04T21:11:10.546-04:002012-05-04T21:11:10.546-04:00i'm just gonna echo most of what everybody sai...i'm just gonna echo most of what everybody said, so i wont repeat (too much). <br />no, you're not entitled. you made a fair offer, which was rejected (unfortunately), so the best move really is to honor a request to please stop asking. <br />thanks for the compliments to your fellow bloggers as reasonable people - errrr- collectors. i agree with you on this one. <br />not to toot my horn, but to give an example. just today i read on another blog about someone needing a card to complete a personal collecting goal. i have one of those, so even though i like the card, i think the other guy is gonna like it even more, so i'm willing to part with it. <br />one door closes, one opens, buddy.Stealing Homehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818879297909675392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-22483886293439116452012-05-04T20:30:05.715-04:002012-05-04T20:30:05.715-04:001. If I were the guy attempting to acquire the ca...1. If I were the guy attempting to acquire the card and was shot down... no doubt, I'd be totally bummed. But I wouldn't be upset with the owner of the card. Maybe he collects that player or team... or he's building the set. Now if he burned it on YouTube to make a statement, then I'd be pissed.<br /><br />2. If I owned the fourth copy and it wasn't one of the players I PC'd, then I'd trade it to him (assuming he has something I want) or sell it to him for fair market value. If it was someone I collected, I'd still be willing to trade it to the guy, but would need something pretty cool in return.<br /><br />3. Nope... I don't think anyone should feel pressured or made to feel guilty for holding onto a card they treasure, just because someone else wants that card too.Fujihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00749100861086458307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-69870017363017969622012-05-04T18:52:12.483-04:002012-05-04T18:52:12.483-04:00I don't think I'd ever quite be in this co...I don't think I'd ever quite be in this collector's shoes, since I just don't collect anything that rare. But, on the other hand, I don't think there's very many cards I wouldn't trade/sell someone if they really needed it. It is a tricky situation, but telling the guy to 'get bent' does seem quite bastardly, if that's how it really went down. Of course, this guy has a right to keep his card. There's no ownership for this other guy having the rest of the set. <br /><br />I say, let's go King Solomon style on both these guys. We'll offer to take all four of the cards and slice each one in half, then divide the halves between these guys. We'll see who reacts best, and this collector will be deemed the true mother.Dhoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01073802391621125215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-14335449416565481632012-05-04T18:35:50.451-04:002012-05-04T18:35:50.451-04:00Easy: I wouldn't sell him the card and i would...Easy: I wouldn't sell him the card and i would demand that he give me his three so i would have a complete set.Spankeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17359644189269593175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-82686139946591548692012-05-04T18:11:25.112-04:002012-05-04T18:11:25.112-04:001. If I were the collector looking for the final c...1. If I were the collector looking for the final card I would feel frustrated, of course<br /><br />2. If I had no great attachment to the final card I would absolutely try to help him out and sell it to him - I'd take a profit on it, but would not try to gauge him<br /><br />3. If you are not the owner of the card you are not entitled to it, in my opinionNathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09063200864403610622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-19432244264921311122012-05-04T17:37:26.591-04:002012-05-04T17:37:26.591-04:00I just went and found the thread holy crap is some...I just went and found the thread holy crap is some of this funny!cynicalbuddhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13459221069829023793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-74509244410279575152012-05-04T17:31:34.116-04:002012-05-04T17:31:34.116-04:00You know after reading what the guy posted I'm...You know after reading what the guy posted I'm probably in the second camp. To answer the questions.<br />1. I'd get over it, but then I'm not trying to put together, nor who I, a super rare insanely low numbered set.<br /><br />2. That depends on the card and the offer. If I was a player collector and all I wanted was one of those 4 for my PC then no I probably wouldn't sell. That being said I don't suppose there's anything in my collection that doesn't have a price, but in the end you'd have to pay dearly for it. My one example is in my Rollie Fingers collection. I scored one of his 2011 Triple Threads Patch cards #d to just 3! and almost went after another one of those, but decided to let it go and let someone else enjoy having one of those cool cards in their collection. Would I ever let mine go, probably, but like I said it wouldn't be cheap and I really like having a cool low numbered card of one of my favorite players with a kick ass piece of memorabilia in it.<br />3. No. There is no entitlement in a hobby. Sorry.cynicalbuddhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13459221069829023793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-69301698160870030412012-05-04T16:48:13.248-04:002012-05-04T16:48:13.248-04:00This was my position, and what I'd like to thi...This was my position, and what I'd like to think most rational people would say. To accuse someone of being a jackass because they refuse to sell something is unfair because it wrongly assumes that they don't have any attachment to it and are just spiting you. Where you might differ from others is asking fair market value instead of gouging the buyer, but again, you come from a mostly reasonable group of collectors that don't take advantage of each other, so that helps. Thanks for your input.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644523735533872065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4335025527445255390.post-13638478706395919002012-05-04T16:45:28.604-04:002012-05-04T16:45:28.604-04:00I would be devastated if the guy wouldn't part...I would be devastated if the guy wouldn't part with the fourth card... but that's the way it is. Hopefully the discussion would've gone better than what happened with those two collectors though.<br />If I'm in possesion of the fourth card, I'd ask for fair market value. Maybe ask for a card or two thrown in as a bonus. But, if it's my favourite player, I don't know if I'd part with it at all.Captain Canuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02189853561737282234noreply@blogger.com